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Hamish McKenzie's avatar

Thanks for writing a thoughtful critique (even if it does come with some stingers!).

I found and read this post because a writer I admired liked it and it showed up in my Notes feed.

Notes is not meant to be a data grab. That’s not our business. Our business is helping writers make money—because that’s how we as a company make money and then get to build all the things that hopefully result in a better media ecosystem.

Notes is intended to be a better discovery system for great writers and writing, and to drive subscriptions to writers. In the absence of Notes, writers instead tend to get found via other platforms like Instagram and Twitter, which really are data-grab plays and are based on rules that care a lot about maximizing revenue and very little about healthy discourse or the quality of a writer’s life. We want that system to change and to be tilted in favor of writers. That’s what Substack is all about.

We’re in the very early days with Notes and the app in general. We’re always looking to improve and serve writers better. Critiques like this help and show us what to aspire to.

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River Selby (they/them)'s avatar

I came to Substack over 3 years ago and this is all spot on. My writing has stayed pretty much the same. I have a few thousand subscribers, not many of them paid. And I've made a commitment to resist doing what Substack says I should do, which is to market myself ALL THE TIME. No. That's not what I want.

I've also found that there are a few Substacks who position themselves as having the key to success and using that to gain paid subscribers. They give me MLM vibes. Substack loves them and lifts them up bc things like that increase their bottom line.

I've also noticed that pretty much no one on here grew their community on Substack alone. May folks with the orange check marks already had wide readerships or followings on other platforms, or are well known writers or public figures. Many of them received grants from Substack or were paid to start their Substack. No shade at all- many of these folks are incredible and I love them and their writing. But after having been here for so long I stopped believing that I can support myself as a writer here, and I also don't want to, because once you have a massive amount of paying subscribers you are beholden to them in ways that can (but don't always) detract from your own creative work, especially if you're doing work that requires long-term focus and development.

I love my little community of readers, but I know that they love me for me. Just for what I do. I don't write FOR them. I tried to do this for a little bit and the funny thing is that my work wasn't as good or authentic. In this way I think that Substack can be a lovely place of connection. We don't necessarily have to buy in to what the platform is selling, but not doing so may also mean accepting that our growth here is limited. I have a book coming out in a couple years so I do know that things could change, but that has nothing to do with Substack really! I think it's dishonest for anyone, including Substack, to purport that every single person can make a living here. It's just not true. And any Substackers who also perpetuate that myth are filling their pockets with people's mostly unfulfilled hopes and dreams, which imo is unethical, but whatevs, I guess they've got it figured out bc they're making way more money than me!

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